Henry Winkler the White Whale and Our Connection to Nostalgia
Episode Notes
Jeff Dwoskin is a podcast host and digital entrepreneur. His company is called Stampede Social, which is we built a unique tool for engagement on Instagram. He's a podcast host producing Classic Conversations. It's a nostalgic podcast, where he talks to TV and film stars. Jeff also interviews comedians that he's worked with over the years, but TV and film stars are his main focus like the ones that he grew up with, you know, like, i.e Isaac and Doc from The Love Boat on, you know, the Happy Days crew, you know, but not Henry Winkler. He's his white whale. Learn how we met. We talk about Podfest and Linkedin too.
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Transcript
Holly Shannon 0:00
Coffee Culture is brewed for connection under the guise of coffee. We've been meeting in cafes for centuries. Today is no different. Coffee Culture, the podcast explores the meetup. If you are a coffee enthusiast, maybe seeking Modern Love on a coffee date, we'll want some health hacks. We'll dig into that too. I'm Holly Shannon. Come wrap your hands around a hot cup of connection with me on coffee culture.
Hello, coffee culture family. Today I have Jeff Dwoskin with me. And I'm excited for his humor and his lightness. I met him at pod Fest in our mutual community. So we will talk a little bit about connection and community. But he failed to send me his bio, but he's such a funny guy that I'm just gonna say Hello, Jeff, and let him tell you a little about himself.
Jeff Dwoskin 1:00
You know, I meant to do that. And I was like, I'll do that eventually. They because anyway.
Yeah, I mean, I'm a podcast host digital entrepreneur. I have a company called stampede social, which is we built a unique tool for engagement on Instagram, which has a lot of cool things. And I'm a podcast host I host classic conversations. It's my podcast, I talk to the nostalgic podcast, I talk to a TV and film stars. And comedians that I've worked with over the years, but TV and film stars my main focus is ones that like maybe I grew up with, you know, like, I've had Isaac gopher and Doc from The Love Boat on, you know, the happy days crew, you know, not Henry Winkler. He's my white whale. He's who I really want on the podcast, but are the people that I kind of grew up with some more recent, you know, depends who says yes. You know what I mean? So, yeah, so, you know, that's how I got involved with POD Fest was through that. endeavor. And then yeah, just social media guy. General.
Holly Shannon 2:09
Nice. Nice. Well, I definitely want to dig into both of those things. But first, first thing out of the way to drink coffee, Joe?
Jeff Dwoskin 2:19
I drink coffee every day. I would say addicted to it.
Holly Shannon 2:24
i Yeah, that's okay. I am to live life's small vices. I think we should be able to have those. When was your first sip if we're going to talk about nostalgia and memories?
Jeff Dwoskin 2:37
My first sip. You know, it had to have been, I don't think I was an early coffee drinker. So it was probably in college. I remember. And I would drink a lot of it. And the caffeine didn't keep me up. I mean, my funniest coffee memory of one has one of those is we there was this like bar called Mr. B's and we would go to it on Mondays. And watch Monday Night Football and there was like 10 cent wings, and I would get coffee. And, and I remember the one thing I remember is like, I'd get a cup of coffee, the waitress walks away, she comes back to refill my cup, but I hadn't even taken a sip yet. And I'm like, I'm like, watch she goes out the other because we would go every week, right? She's like, Oh, the other waitress over there says you drink like a fish. So I came back real fast. Yeah, because it didn't it didn't pick me up. You know, some people can't drink past, you know, X pm or whatever. Just because, you know, keep them up all night. That never affected me that way. So yeah, so that was I've been kind of addicted for a long time. I
Holly Shannon 3:42
see you're addicted but it doesn't wake you up. So maybe it has more to do with like the smell and the taste, or the perceived idea that it's gonna keep you up?
Jeff Dwoskin 3:52
Well, yeah, I mean, now it's like a morning thing. I don't drink it as much as you know, whenever the pot runs out, right, right. You know, we did just guys a gift, I just got one of these Coffee of the Month clubs. So we get like these now fancy coffees from supposedly picked from all over the world. And it was like, it comes with a yellow card. And as I this one has a hint of honey, coffee, and whatever. And I'm like, alright, well, you know, but once I add the creamer, I'm like, is it really matter?
Holly Shannon 4:24
This is true. That does change the profile for sure. So, let's let's dig in just a little bit. Um, you know, the show is mostly about connection. But you know, we, you know, we like talk a little bit about coffee. So my whole concept on this show is that coffee is really like a tool for us to come together to why we meet in cafes. It's why people have done that for centuries. They weren't necessarily coming for the coffee they were coming for the connection and there As communities everywhere, there's communities even within coffee shops. But for us, our community has been pod fest, and I had met you there. So that's our first connection, at least, I would say. And then I'd say we also have a little bit of a connection going over social media, which I didn't. You know, a lot of people say, you can connect and make connections on LinkedIn, and Instagram and whatever. And I always was a little off on that, like, Yeah, but it's superficial. But I find like some of the jokes that you and I do back and forth feel like a real connection to me, I don't know if you have that with other people, too.
Jeff Dwoskin 5:47
I think it's real I have, you know, there's a lot of people on Twitter that I consider myself close with that I've known for five plus years that I've never met in person never resumed with nothing, you know, just kind of have that connection, I used to run a community on Twitter called hashtag round up since like, 2015. So we would run these hashtag games almost every hour, throughout the day. And so we had a lot of hosts that we were involved with. So we developed a pretty tight relationship with most of them. And, you know, a couple of them, you know, they would come to town and we'd meet, you know, it would be rare, but like, you know, where we'd hang out and we'd get coffee. So, but yeah, I mean, I think either you can, I mean, if you have a connection like our back and forth on Instagram, before we, I think officially officially connected at this last podcast, you know, we have mutual interests, we knew we knew some of the same people. So there's at least a comfort level.
Holly Shannon 6:54
We know, crazy person weirds going on
Jeff Dwoskin 6:57
everything. This versus a jet. Larry knows this guy. He's
Holly Shannon 7:02
Larry knows Holly, I think I can actually have a conversation with her. She's safe.
Jeff Dwoskin 7:06
She'll say, you know, so Well, you know, like, I'm not a creeper, I might get dizzy and or whatever, you know, we're just, we're just actually it's a it's it is what it is, right? Where we're talking, you know, podcasting and all that kind of stuff. So it is cool. It is interesting to me like coffee, because someone just emailed me just yesterday and say, Hey, let's meet for coffee. I think it's like a low touch. Like if you go let's meet for dinner, or lunch. It just seems like there's more involved with that. That's gonna cost more money. It's
Holly Shannon 7:39
more of a commitment time.
Jeff Dwoskin 7:41
Right? Coffee may actually take longer, right? You may actually chill for an hour hours, right? But it's the knowing you can leave it I mean,
Holly Shannon 7:51
exactly. And you know, like when you're meeting somebody for the first time and you order your coffee when they say is it for here to or to go and they take a minute to go cop you know, your time is limited. Third, third, that's they're out.
Jeff Dwoskin 8:08
But you also know they have bad taste because coffee and actual mug once I realized it Starbucks, you could actually get a mug if you asked, changed. Everything changed. Coffee tastes better in a mug. Yeah,
Holly Shannon 8:20
absolutely. Well, it's the same with everything. Like even you know, if we just dive into alcohol for two seconds, I mean, having a glass of wine in something that's actually like glass or crystal tastes completely different from plastic cup. No shade on, you know, anybody who's like having like a party outside in the back of their truck, and they're pouring it in a plastic cup or you're outside and you're patio, which I've done too, because I don't want glass back there. But it does change the flavor. It's not as special anything that goes into plastic tastes like crop or paper.
Jeff Dwoskin 8:57
Right now. Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah.
Holly Shannon 9:01
So Jeff, let's get into like, what your big love is, and your connection with the nostalgia. So Jeff has a huge show called classic conversations. I'll let you tell him the stats because he wouldn't blow that out. Because that's maybe sound like, I'm not gonna, like boast about myself. I'm gonna make him tell you because he has an amazing show. And it was I think born out of the idea that he wanted to interview the people he grew up laughing with, I'm gonna guess or at least that's a part of it. And maybe you could tell us a little about all that.
Jeff Dwoskin 9:41
Yeah, I mean, it happened a little bit by accident. I was I started my podcast. Originally, I had a different idea for it, but I started to do the first. I started I started the podcast after being on a podcast with my friends, Bob Phillips. In South Amelio, and Nate Armbruster, Sal and Bob, and I now do a weekly live show called crossing the streams, where to live on YouTube, which is we, we and a couple other folks, Ron LePen. And random guests. I think I invited you recently. So we will have you on is, is to just talk about TV shows that we binge and stuff like that. So it's sort of a, we get to rap about stuff that we like. But you know, it's also useful. Here's some suggestions of things you can can dive into, because there's so much out there. So that sort of, actually, the idea for that live show actually came from this podcast, because early on in the podcast, I was trying to think of content. And I knew my friend Ron lipid. And Howard Rosner, you know, we always talked about TV shows. So let's, I'll do a segment where we'll just talk about TV shows. So two of my early early episodes, if you look like the first 22 of them are called crossing the streams, because, and I remember like, I remember filming, filming, taping both of those episodes back to back, like we did 20 minutes. And then we said, Alright, stop. Now let's do another one. Because I was also worried about feeling content. Yeah, I think to the point now, where I if I stopped interviewing right now I have enough content. I could go months, months. It's embarrassing. Like if someone goes, Oh, we know this air. I'm like, I don't know. I mean, I've, I mean, I've had ones that I put out quicker. And then one that I like, it took a year to put out. And I mean, so which is embarrassing to go back to and go hey, by the way, yeah. Anyway, so. Yeah, so so that that happened there. And then eventually, I needed a live show. Because I was, as I got more invested in podcasting, it was a indie podcast invention. And they, you know, to be part of it, you know, they wanted people to do live shows, but I'd never done a live show. So I got stream yard and all that. And then I said, Oh, well, I have this format. I'll just, I'll do that. And then that's how that happened. But with along the way, I got introduced to a couple celebrities, it never occurred to me that celebrities would talk to me. It just never occurred to me, like, I don't know. And he's, you know, that kind of thing. So, I knew a lot of comedians, because I had been doing professional standup comedy for 20 years. So a lot of comedians I knew and I could reach out to, but then I had somebody who introduced me to a couple of people. And then once I kind of figured out how to connect with them. It was like, Oh, they don't they either say yes or no, or they don't answer, you know, sometimes the no answers. I've reached back out, you know, I give it some time, I'd never like, I don't do it like sales that mean if someone doesn't answer, they don't answer. I'm not not bothering these folks, or their publicists or managers, but and then sometimes they come back and go, Yeah, later, sometimes it's just timing. Yeah. So yeah, so I started talking to them and, and realize, oh, this is this is good. I like this. And I just had a natural sort of curiosity. So I do a lot of research. And I learned really early on that the more research you do, and more prepared, you are walking into a conversation, they appreciate it, and they start to tell you more stuff. And, and so sort of started to kind of create this, this balance of listening to them on other podcasts to kind of hear how they talk and what they normally talk about. And then trying to figure out ways to circumvent most of that, so that when I talk to them, it's it's different. Some, some stuffs always gonna be the same. And what I find is some people just go right into the same tropes that he's just saying, no matter what you say. So tell me about this. Well, my mom, I didn't ask about him. Yeah, I mean, right. But there's certain things they just want to say. So. So that's that's how we got into it. And it kind of got addicted to it. In a way I guess. It's that was like, you know, the hunt?
Holly Shannon 14:12
Was it hard like sharing the stage? Technically, I mean, I noticed on stage but because you're a stand up comedian, so you're used to creating the whole storyline that you're going to take an audience through from beginning to end and barring some hecklers or small interruptions, like if you decide to ask the audience something, it's It's your show, typically. Do you have Did you have a hard time in the beginning learning that interview? That cadence?
Jeff Dwoskin 14:42
Great question. The thing I learned early on is, the less I talk, the better and I think that goes for anything like that. I realized that some people my mantra is come in fully prepared, but not to say it just to be able to to prod for, right? A lot of people would be like I hear hosts, you know, they'll go, oh, I read this. And then they'll talk for three minutes. Like, it's impressive that they knew the information. I was like, Well, I didn't, I didn't want to hear you say it. You didn't have to have your guests on for you to say, you know, and so it's funny, because early on, when people would say, Oh, he's such a good interviewer. It's such a good interview, they just talk and talk. It was like, Oh, is it because a lot of times, celebrities don't have good equipment. And so I realized I couldn't talk because they would blow up the sound. So I was very careful not to interrupt. And that trained me to be a better listener. But it was the technology that sort of tricked me into learning that that lesson, because it's like, you know how, like, when you're talking with somebody at a party, and you go, Oh, and it's great. And you go, oh, let's go move over there. And then you move over there. And then the conversation dies, you're gonna want to talk about, like, the vibe.
Holly Shannon 16:04
Yeah, the same. It's like a moment, you lose that moment.
Jeff Dwoskin 16:07
Right? It was there was something there was an energy that was propelling in a second you move it, it's something in the universe shifts. So I learned also, that if I, you know, I think interviewers tend to go, Aha, really? Yeah, I know, isn't it like, I want data, or whatever, right. And I found that if you do that, it breaks their flow. And so I want to, I don't want to do that, right? Because the more they talk, the more they'll remember. Because they're just like us, a lot of these things are like far long. TIME PAST, right. And so as they're talking, they start to remember things. And if you cut them off, they'll stop talking about it. And they'll stop, they'll cut off that memory. And so there's times where I'll be editing. And I realized I did do that. And I'm like, No, I'm just so mad at myself. So you know, but that's, that's kind of thing. So I looked at myself as a stand up comic. And those skills that I've developed that way to be able to kind of interact, engage, lightly prod or make fun of something in a humorous way. That isn't, it isn't threatening, and get them to laugh and kind of keep talking. So that's how I kind of did it. So I, I look at it as like they're gracing me with their presence. And so I'm happy that they're there. And I want to get the most out of it for them. So I never, I never looked at it as sort of a competition that I wasn't getting. The stage, I found that actually, the more I downplayed me about our show did.
Holly Shannon 17:44
Did you ever have like, an interview with somebody maybe more earlier on because you probably have become more schooled and how to move the conversation. But do you ever have one earlier on with a celebrity or whoever that you just couldn't get anything out of them? Like it was really hard to get in the flow of a conversation, they just were not comfortable behind the mic.
Jeff Dwoskin 18:16
There was ones that I looked back and I wish I'd done more research going into that I didn't know who I was really talking to. I didn't realize what was going on. And there was one time I got called out, you know, so there's the interesting thing I learned early on was celebrities, there's different celebrities have different recollections of things that they've done. And while these moments and events live in our minds and hearts and are so important to us, to them, it may be that, but it may also have just been something that got paid for and then they moved on. Right. So, and I didn't know that, because most of the people I talked to would be like, oh, yeah, I did that. And then they'd have all these stories. And then the first person I talked to where it was like, Jeff, I got paid. I did it. Hey, what was it like to work with Steve Martin? I don't know. What do you mean, I don't even understand that question. What do you mean, what was it like? I mean, it was great. It was gonna sucked. Me. I was like, What do I mean? Like, oh, okay, I get it. That's it. That's, that's a question. It's a softball question. And a lazy question that I was asking that I knew most of the time would just trigger the right answer. If that answer matched my expectations of the question, but if it didn't, then you know, you had then you got into that it was like, What do you mean, I worked a little What was it like scooping ice cream? i Yeah, they paid me I scooped ice cream. I needed a job during high school. And I mean, it was like, it didn't mean anything specifically to them. I like the fact that they cranked out a cult classic was just something that they did. And so that's why I started Listening to them. Do people do interviews? Because you can learn a lot when they're interviewing with someone else. Are they a talker? Are they short answer person at Asner? I knew was a short answer person. I knew that also from his book. Because his book was like 150 pages. Mary Tyler Moore section was like two and a half pages that should have been 500 pages. Right? I know that. Yeah. So. So sometimes, if you hear me talking more, it's because that's my understanding that I need to guide the conversation differently than if somebody I know is is a talker. When I interviewed Bernie co pal. I was joking myself. He was doc on Love Boat was gonna get smart. And, and so he's like, like, classic guy, right and like, but when I interviewed him, it was kind of like, and ladies and gentlemen, vertical Powell. And then he talked for 45 minutes. Like I had to force questions in just so I could call it an interview.
Holly Shannon 21:01
It was a monologue,
Jeff Dwoskin 21:03
basically was I mean, it was amazing. I was honored to be in the presence of it. But it was just, you know, it's not always that way. Right? And sometimes it's some balance of it. But the one thing I found early on is if you can, people tend to go Yeah, there was this one time I was on this TV show. And, and then and then you go, Oh, you mean Mary Tyler Moore, like you're like you were you know what they're talking about. And you fill it in? Because they're gonna gloss it. They go, oh, oh, this guy. This guy came prepared, you know, and then they'll, they'll go deeper for you. That's, that's, that's the trick. You know, they wrote a book or read the book. You know, I mean,
Holly Shannon 21:45
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In the same way, is there are Have there been certain interviews that just blew your mind. It was like the perfect interview and the perfect guest and somebody you always wanted to interview or maybe didn't didn't necessarily have them on your radar. They just were amazing. And you like it was like I dropped the mic by the time you were done.
Jeff Dwoskin 23:04
I think my TED Neeley conversation is great. And I didn't Ted Neely was Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ Superstar in the 70s in that movie in the movie, and I didn't know who he was. I'm Jewish. I never really watched that movie was it wasn't on my radar.
Holly Shannon 23:20
Todd annoy Elohim.
Jeff Dwoskin 23:24
But a super fan of my show was like, hey, Ted Neely, and this guy was insanely, an attic. He loved Jesus Christ Superstar and Ted Neeley. He's like Ted Neely is looking to do an interview. Because they have a documentary of Jesus Christ Superstar out. So I reached out to him and he said, Yeah, since I watched the movie, it's funny. I'm sitting there taking notes. I mean, you others may know the story by heart, but like, I'm taking it right. And then he went through the this and so sorry, yeah, basically the strategies and then I watched the documentary. And I don't know I never clicked with someone so fast than Ted Neely, it was it was just it was really it was just interesting. It was I ran for someone who I had to kind of learn to know who he was right. But when we were talking, it was just it was like, it was so fun and engaging. But you know the people like Kato Kaelin are great to talk to super fun. Carole Baskin was great. You know, there's there's a lot of people that you know, you're always surprised. It's, most of most celebrities come to the table as a human being and who they are. Right. And they want to tie in there like Anthony Williams. Potsie from Happy days. Thank you so much for having me on your show. Oh, like thinking what's out, dude, thank you for being on my show. You know, I mean, so, and then there's some folks that like, I had John Glaser on. Who's hilarious. He was Uh, Councilman jam, and Parks and Rec, but I had never seen Parks and Rec. So I had to kind of figure that out. I'd seen his other stuff that he had done. But now I'm watching Parks and Rec. And I'm like, Man, I wish I had seen this all in depth, that would have been a whole different interview. So you know, I mean, it's all it's all about that.
Holly Shannon 25:19
So did you invite him back? Or you don't feel comfortable with that?
Jeff Dwoskin 25:22
It's not bad. It's just we covered it. You know, I mean, it was just like, man, it would have been fun to have had that context a little bit more. But I always feel that way. Because you know, you learn more about anybody that you're with once you're there kind of on your radar. So true. It's kind of cool. So
Holly Shannon 25:42
are you did you end up doing a show with your other podcast crossing the streams on parking rack after you started picking up on the episodes, because I never watched it, by the way, but I know like, it was like a cult in itself. So
Jeff Dwoskin 25:56
I'm going to once we're done, we're like a season and a half ago, which we should get through pretty quick because there are 27 minute episodes. The hard part about parks and rec was the first season which is only six episodes isn't great. And you have good, it's good, but it's like you gotta get through it. And then it gets great. Then it gets called the cult classic and iconic. And it's funny once you start watching Parks and Rec you start to every you go, there's been many moments where we go, oh, that's that meme.
Holly Shannon 26:31
You yes, no, I know what you're saying. I know you're saying. And meme is like, you know, a whole different thing of this period in time. You know, it didn't even exist when Parks and Rec started because that was probably I think that was pre pre phones. Right? When did Parks and Rec start, like I want to say was like, early 2000s, wasn't it?
Jeff Dwoskin 26:55
And she was running for city council and it is 2012 She was running so Oh,
Holly Shannon 27:00
so I'm wrong. I'm wrong then. Okay, so I guess memes existed during the time of the show. Probably.
Jeff Dwoskin 27:06
Not animated memes. Yeah, right. Or e cigs or tick tock clips, you know, and stuff like that. So that's true. Yeah.
Holly Shannon 27:14
So your white whale? Henry Winkler Have you asked, because I we know sometimes they just say yes.
Jeff Dwoskin 27:21
Oh, yeah. I've been rejected four times. Oh,
Holly Shannon 27:25
anybody out there know him. We gotta we gotta help Jeff. I can't believe he said, No, you have such a good show. Tell everybody the stats about class a conversation so they can realize like, why they need to go watch. I mean, listen to it, or watch it. I guess I probably have it on YouTube.
Jeff Dwoskin 27:39
I mean, I yeah, how many downloads I get and stuff. No,
Holly Shannon 27:42
no, like the show. It's a top show, like you've been featured in on Apple and in the top spots. Like, I think that's something that you should be really proud of. That's hard to do as an indie podcaster.
Jeff Dwoskin 27:55
I've squeaked in the top 100. And I think it's awesome. Of the of the like, a sub thing is I always like close to it, you know? Yeah. I mean, it says, Well, I mean, it, you know, I get a good good amount of downloads I get, you know, I listen notes if you want. I was 1%. Now 1.5%, though nothing changed other than the percentage. So I'm not sure about that. And then. Yeah, but that's still good. I mean, it's
Holly Shannon 28:25
amazing. Yeah, that's a globally ranked third party source. So I mean, that's coming from a different lane. You know, listen notes, I think that that's a valuable number to look at. I think, where I find a questionable is chargeable, just because it's owned by Spotify. So it's like they're doing their own homework, you know what I mean? checking their own homework.
Jeff Dwoskin 28:46
Right, right. Yeah, you know, it's, you know, you always hope it could do a lot, a lot better. It's hard to beat an indie podcaster. Right. I mean, it's like, you know, if, like, somehow, like, you know, a famous person comes out with a podcast, and suddenly it's a top five punch. It's like, Yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's painful. It's a it's a weird concept. It's hard for me to wrap my head around how that works, even somebody who you don't even know and it suddenly becomes like, how did everyone know about that? I'm not knocking. I mean, obviously, you know, you can put money behind things and give it visibility. But, you know, it's so hard to get hundreds of people to listen to it, but then suddenly 100,000 People were interested at once.
Holly Shannon 29:33
No, I know, I've struggled with it too, as a podcaster. Because, you know, influencers, celebrities. People in the spotlight, you know, then they now have to be very multifaceted in how they produce content because they don't know where their fans are. If they want to grow their fan base. They have to be everywhere, right? They have to be on you to buy an Apple and Spotify and Instagram and in the movies and, you know, they have to do everything and you know, not just podcasters I think indie podcasters that suffer from that I just think of even like an E commerce, you know? So like, you know, some famous, I don't know some influencer decides they're gonna have a podcast and a perfume. It's like, there's, there's no art to either side of it is just an opportune, it's opportunistic, that they're going to, like leverage their influence. I mean, I can't blame them for that. But the marketing dollars that go behind something like that make it truly impossible for an indie podcaster. truly impossible if my my clock is going off, see agrees with me making the point.
Jeff Dwoskin 30:51
It does make it difficult. Yes. It's interesting, but it's, it's definitely a different world. You know, but I've talked to a lot of folks and then they become podcasters. My, my, my, my thing is when you're talking to one of them that has a podcast, and they come on the show, and they don't come with their equipment.
Holly Shannon 31:16
Oh my god, that's so funny.
Jeff Dwoskin 31:17
Or your show? I don't, I don't need equipment for your show.
Holly Shannon 31:22
Let me just like throw on my cheap little ear pod. I'm just gonna wear one because I'm trying to listen for the dog and the other.
Jeff Dwoskin 31:30
So but yeah, it's, I love it. It's fun. It's like, it's funny, because like, how like, people were like, who's the most famous person you've had on your show? And I'll be like, it depends who you think the most famous person is. It doesn't matter what I think I know I would say at Asner, or something like that. Or D Wallace. And then people look at me and they're like, I go I had Carole Baskin on from Tiger King. Tiger. Yeah, bad. Suddenly the rap that's, that gives me straight pride.
Unknown Speaker 32:03
I've never seen Tiger King. You've had, but it's like, but yeah,
Jeff Dwoskin 32:08
did you know she is?
Holly Shannon 32:10
No I know the like a little bit through a meme. Probably. But yeah, not my kind of show.
Jeff Dwoskin 32:16
Like sometimes the kid Okay, islands are like Carole Baskin, or, you know, like, that kind of stuff is. You know, I met and I interviewed I haven't aired yet. But William Hung.
Holly Shannon 32:30
Oh, perfect. He was at PortFast shebang.
Jeff Dwoskin 32:33
Yeah. And we connected at pod fest. So I got him on my podcast.
Holly Shannon 32:39
How was that?
Jeff Dwoskin 32:41
It was good. He's a nice guy. He's a nice guy. I guess he just got engaged. I saw on Facebook.
Holly Shannon 32:46
Oh, I had a picture with him. And another podcast or friend, Felicia Thomas, the three of us we were hanging out and got, you know, I got picture taken with him. But I, I, you know, he, there was a lot of people that were really like orbiting around him. So I kind of just backed away because like, I didn't really know how I would like, you know, I didn't know how to approach them. Like, I didn't want to just, you know, be like, Oh, I remember seeing you on American Idol. That's probably what those sentence he was approached with, like, 1000 times that day.
Jeff Dwoskin 33:21
Well, yeah, that's his thing. Right? And then, you know, it's like one of those things like, my kids wouldn't know who you were, who he is. Right. I mean, so it's definitely a specific generational, you know, depends on how old you are. And if you are watching back then because that was a while ago.
Holly Shannon 33:41
You know, that actually brings me to a question. Because your show like you bridge a lot of generations. I mean, obviously the nostalgic piece of it for you was to interview you know, the stars of your favorite shows growing up, like say Happy Days or love bow. But you've had like a lot of newer people on was, was it intentional to like bridge the divide, you know, any generally generational gaps, or was that by accident?
Jeff Dwoskin 34:11
It it all depends. Yeah. So like, I've had BJ Tanner has been on he's, he was on the Orville Wright. So the Orville was one of it is one of my favorite shows. So I kind of made it thing. Brian get people from the Orville on the show. And so I've had three and he's one of them and He's younger. He's like 18. Right, Michael, one of the guys from Stranger Things. The new season or one of the folks that was in the lab with 11 I had on the show. Kimia pornea is recent. She's a Younger Actress. But she was on my favorite show one of my favorite shows reboot of on Hulu, which just got canceled, damn them to hell. So I had reached I had reached out and then, you know, it all comes down to sometimes the more famous ones now, it's like, here's the other thing with like, you know, if you look at like a smart list, go look at like the smartlace, folks, right? They get all the names, they get big names, right. And so it's like, but it's almost like, like my podcasts. I don't consider, like a publicity machine. Some I mean, sometimes they have books, and that's my end, right? So they're, they're selling Yeah, wanting to talk about their book or let people know, they had a book or something like that. But it's not specifically a publicity machine. It's not like, oh, you know, I have a TV show coming out. And they call on my show, and I go, Hey, is it starting next Tuesday, the new episode of Yellowstone? Yeah, that's, that's not my thing. It's more of a kind of a retrospective type conversation. And if they have something new, we talked about it, of course, and sometimes that is my end. But it's not meant to be that so. So newer folks tend to not, you know, their publicists are going to give up, put them on a smart list. Because that's, I don't wanna say that's now more of a publicity machine. And, you know, then just talking to old friends or something, you know, having Biden on and, you know, you can tell by, you can tell, because of how big the show is, it's now just like a morning show, right? Or one of those shows that other people make the rounds on. And so I don't I don't know that I'll be there. Yeah, I mean, so. So I have to go with my lane, which is more the nostalgia. Yeah. And 20 years, maybe Dana Carvey will be on
Holly Shannon 36:47
the next white whale. So what's next for you, Jeff, what are you working on?
Jeff Dwoskin 36:54
I have been working on I have a startup I've been in the digital space, most of my career, non podcast career. And so we've been working on this company called stampede social. And it's, it's a, it's an Instagram engagement tool. So it it helps to automate automated links, trackable links to your followers based on what content you want to do without relying on Lincoln bio. So you can you can say, Hey, listen to my new episode, and it sends them a link but unique thing is I know, I sent that link to Holly, I know why you requested a while post you requested it from I can track you, you know, beyond that, if it's to a registration form or a contest or something like that, know if you actually did it. So in the influencer space, it can help an influencer determine or a brand determine the influencers influence. And then it monitors the posts on Instagram as well. It has some fun AI tools built in to help you kind of great responses, but it helps you manage all your comments, and commenting. It's not an inbox management tool, per se, but it collects it in a way that's unique to other other platforms. And so and then UGC tracking like good pod fest, we help them track anybody who use one of those hashtags. And tagged pod fest collected in this in this tool for them. So it does like a variety of cool things. It's stampede dot social, if somebody wants to check it out. So
Holly Shannon 38:24
I love that. We'll put links in the show notes for that for sure. And maybe, of course, your podcast. But if you have like a specific episode, you want people to listen to like that one special one with for the sorry, Jesus wide. What's the guy's name again? Sorry,
Jeff Dwoskin 38:44
Ted. Yeah, sorry. We just went out there all special. I think now, what I realized was at some point, is like, there's, you know, 200 plus episodes is like, you can just look and go, Oh, I know this guy. I'll listen to that one.
Holly Shannon 38:57
Fair. Okay, then I'll just put a link. And we'll add that in there.
Jeff Dwoskin 39:02
Just send you links. I know. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 39:04
I love that. I love that.
Holly Shannon 39:06
This is really nice. I'm glad we got to dial into not just the connection to our mutual community, but the connection to nostalgia on your great show. And and I'm really glad that you came on coffee culture.
Jeff Dwoskin 39:21
Well, I'm so glad you invited me. It was a pleasure to hang out with you once again. So thank you very much.
Holly Shannon 39:30
Thanks. Thanks. Well, maybe we'll do it again soon. So
Jeff Dwoskin 39:34
that would be amazing.
Holly Shannon 39:37
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